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Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:41 pm
by RedUtilityTruck
I am fortunate enough to have found a hard top a few years ago and have just begun trying to fit it to my truck.

I did not remove it from a previous truck but bought it already removed.

As it is sitting on the cab, and windscreen, it appears that the rear is higher than the front. Also the front bolt holes do not line up with the holes in the windshield frame. The windshield frame has 5 bolt holes across the front and this top has only 2 bolt holes incorrectly spaced to hit any of the windshield frame bolt holes..

So I am wondering if there is supposed to be a spacer or shim that is about 1/2 inch thick between the windshield frame and the hard top at the front. That would correct the misalignment front to back. The only other thing I can think of would be that the small ridge along the rear cab would be cut off to install the hard top, and I am not willing to modify my truck in that way. Willing to modify the hardtop, but not the truck.

Any thoughts and perspectives welcome.

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:31 am
by RCrombie
Hi,

There’s at least two styles of hardtop used by the military. One is a modified cckw top with a round window and a few adaptations to make it fit the m37 cab. The other hardtop is the one designed for the m37 which has a sliding rear window. I have also seen a few home built tops adapted from other vehicles.
Can you post a picture? Then we might be able to better help you out.
Regards
Rob

Actually, going by memory I believe there’s two holes on the inside at the front that on my truck have a large padlock securing the window frame to the hardtop. I’ll take a closer look for you later and see if there’s anything extra there. I have the type with the sliding rear window.

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:33 am
by RedUtilityTruck
Thanks Rob,
Based upon your description I have nether. . . I have an oval-ish rear window, but I am pretty sure it is not the hard top that was adapted from the CCKW trucks.

Will go get some pictures and see about posting them here.
Jase

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:48 pm
by RCrombie
Here is how my hardtop is attached at the front. This is as it came from the military.

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:15 pm
by RedUtilityTruck
Not having any luck yet capturing an image that is small enough to post here.

I can say that my hardtop must not be a factory original, as there is no way to use those tabs and locks to secure the front. Also the rear was probably attached with sheet metal screws. I am unwilling to drill holes in my truck so I will find another way to attach the rear of the top.

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:26 pm
by PoW
G741 hardtop kits with oval windows were definitely made from CCKW kits.

I had two of those, still in the crates. (Many years ago, gone now). There was still some lit in with them showing how to mount it on the WW2 truck.

The tip is there are a lot of painted wooden parts to it that allow it to sort of fit an M37. It also has a metal crosspiece that adapts the top of your windshield to fit up to the top front.

If one doesn't cut off some of the metal directly behind the door glass, you will have a permanent wound on your back.

PoW

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:41 pm
by RedUtilityTruck
PoW wrote:G741 hardtop kits with oval windows were definitely make from CCKW kits.

I had two of those, still in the crates. (Many years ago, gone now). There was still some lit in with them showing how to mount it on the WW2 truck.

The tip is there are a lot of painted wooden parts to it that allow it to sort of fit an M37. It also has a metal crosspiece that adapts the top of your windshield to fit up to the top front.

If one doesn't cut off some of the metal directly behind the door glass, you will have a permanent wound on your back.

PoW
Thanks PoW. The hard top I have is not the CCKW one.. I wish I could figure out how to post a picture.. Anyhow the rear window on mind is rectangular shaped but with rounded corners.. and about 2 feet across, and a 18" tall. I think I will pull it all apart next summer and do some trimming to get it fitting better. I finally realized I have nothing to loose, and everything to gain by getting it fitting and then the windows will work better as well.

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:21 pm
by ez8
RedUtilityTruck wrote:Not having any luck yet capturing an image that is small enough to post here.

I can say that my hardtop must not be a factory original, as there is no way to use those tabs and locks to secure the front. Also the rear was probably attached with sheet metal screws. I am unwilling to drill holes in my truck so I will find another way to attach the rear of the top.
You can use https://imgur.com/ to host pictures of any size. Click "New post" green button on the upper left side.
Then when it uploads you can either link to the website or there is an option to get a link that will allow you to embed pictures in your post.

Re: Fitting a hardtop... or aligning it as best I can

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:27 am
by PoW
Those 'tabs' have to be removed to properly fit the arctic hardtop to the windshield frame.

The top front is then secured with several fine thread 3/8" cap screws from the inside.

Run a tap thru the captive nuts first, they have prolly never had any use before, and will really like to have the rust cleared out.

PoW