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Wisconsin MV License Plate Image

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I posted this in the forum http://www.g741.org/PHPBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3779 Titling a military vehicle, but thought I'd repost a picture of what the new Wisconsin MV plates look like
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22nd MV in state since new law



The rules are still a bit buggered up, but we did get the state from pulling all our titles, but at least some of us can have them on the road, unless you have an M37 or other MV that is not painted to resemble a military vehicle, say and orange and black truck, or red, or any other color or military markings that wasn't 'original military' they also can deny them if they have a non stock engine, say a diesel in an m37... then they can deny you a title and registration. So we still have our work cut out for us.

General Information for Wisconsin MV's from the Wisconsin DMV

A Historic Military Vehicle (HMV) is a vehicle manufactured for use in any country’s military forces and maintained to accurately
represent its military design and markings. HMVs manufactured in the US may be of any age. Imported HMVs must be at least
25 years old. A HMV may be a truck, trailer or motorcycle of any size and weight, but cannot be a tracked vehicle.
(Note: a tracked vehicle runs on continuous tracks or a combination of wheels and tracks.)
Historic military vehicle registration allows operation to and from special occasions, such as parades and show events, and for regular
maintenance. Operation of this vehicle is prohibited until the application is processed and plates issued. Temporary plates cannot be
issued while application is being processed. Applications for HMV title and plates must be mailed to Madison. Local DMV Customer
Service Centers are unable to process these applications.
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It is a nice looking plate. I got #88 for my M37.
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It would be nice if all states offered a plate like that.
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It was through the efforts of two Wisconsin MV clubs that the legislation was pushed thru in 2 years and the plates finally became available last October. The clubs are still hammering away at the state legislature to refine and hopefully further liberalize the new laws. I see a very good long term positive outcome having established a niche for MV's both in the law of the state and the procedures of the DMV. It will help extend the viable life span of these vehicles and their operations on public roads for years to come.
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"It would be nice if all states offered a plate like that."

I don't think I would like it. Texas gives me the option of registering all my former military vehicles using the military registration number (hood number) in lieu of a license plate which would detract from the vehicle's authentic appearance. The only condition is that the vehicle be restored to its correct military appearance.

Texas also allows Former Military Vehicles the same operating priviledges as all other antique vehicles. I like the idea of being allowed to take a Sunday drive in my only "convertible".
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what? they can deny you if it's not original paint or drivetrain? Great. I think I'm just going to register mine at my parent's place in MIchigan. they dont have retarded rules like that.
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Like I said, the law is a work in progress, the MV Groups here in WI made a great effort and changed the law and the policies of the DMV, without the hard work they did, my truck, jeep, and many many others would be sitting in the garages or hauled around on trailers. And we will continue to make improvements to the legislation as we can.
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Paul in Kempner, TX wrote:"It would be nice if all states offered a plate like that."

I don't think I would like it. Texas gives me the option of registering all my former military vehicles using the military registration number (hood number) in lieu of a license plate which would detract from the vehicle's authentic appearance. The only condition is that the vehicle be restored to its correct military appearance.

Texas also allows Former Military Vehicles the same operating priviledges as all other antique vehicles. I like the idea of being allowed to take a Sunday drive in my only "convertible".
Ohio has a law like that too, with just your bumper numbers.. and I think Wisconsin will make the change to allow the daily drives... but for now it beats them all being illegal.
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Here in Central VA, you have a choice, historic looking plate or antique black & white, but here's the kicker, as a Historic Military Vehicle, no tag/plate needs to be displayed! However it does need to be in the vehicle somewhere.
BTW, Carl, Those plates look great!
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What hasn't been mentioned is the long uphill battle with the legislature and the DMV started 2 years ago when the DMV took an official stand on "If it is a military tactical vehicle built for primarily off road use then you cannot title, register or operate on public roads. We went from this situation to a permanent recognition of our MV's as legal, driveable property. That to me is moving in the right direction. We have a ways to go yet. This should be an eye opener for MV owners throughout the country that their DMV's can suddenly change their interpretation of existing laws or stop turning their heads with no notice and if you had no law on the books protecting your right to specifically own and operate MV's you may get the surprise of your life.
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Don't get me wrong I am appreciative of the efforts put in by all but it seems to me that modified trucks such as mine are still completely outside the realm of being legal so in effect the progress that has been made has no net positive effect for me. Time to move back up to the UP.
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Brilliant idea: the application requires pictures of the vehicle to ensure original paint and drivetrain... All I need is pictures of a truck that will never hit the road again as well as a picture of my frame serial number and ill be all set. I don't like resorting to tretchery to get it registered but the wording of the bill leaves me no choice.
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Mr Josh please stand to the side while we investigate you truck....lol!

In Ohio the law was pushed through the state congress by an MV collector as well as other antique cars. The bill allows the historic vehicle plate to be painted on the truck like bumper markings. But the actual metal plates must be carried in the vehicle. The law also included antique vehicles where if you can find an Ohio plate for the year of manufacture (i.e. you have a 1956 Corvet and you find a 1956 Ohio license plate) you can register that plate number as your antique vehicle plate. (provided the plate number is not registered to a different vehicle...example if some has a vanity plate that was like k8tr8t and you found an old plate that happen to be k8tr8t thus by chance your 1958 Ohio plate is the same number as some guys beamer's vanity plate you can not register it as your antique plate)
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Carl, That is a sharp looking plate. I hope the law gets straightened out.

It sounds as if the Wisconsin DMV is run by folks wearing black jackboots and Mao caps? A plot to discourage MV ownership by red tape. Probably some hippy enviro-weenies behind it "Like, ya know dude,...those old army trucks pollute and represent war..." :lol:

I think Ohio is pretty easy going. When I got my title I took the truck to the BMV with no head lights, no cab top, no bed, no windshield, and a hose on my fuel tank fill. The gal asked me where the serial number was and I pointed to the glovebox. She took my word for it and we were good to go.

I decided to keep my plates on my truck. I asked three licenses bureaus and one State trooper about the painted number exception for MV's here in Ohio. Nobody knew a thing about it. I had to take the section of the motor vehicle code to the DMV and actually show it to them in thier own regs. I figured it was not worth the hassle of potentailly getting pulled over. :?
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David, I did basically the same thing when I first registered my truck in Ohio, hauled to the DMV on a trailer with no bed, or front end, just so they could see the serial number on frame. After that it was easy, as for the bumper number thing and keeping your plates in the truck, I agree the cops didn't know anything about it, and as Chief of Police while I was in Ohio, they really don't care..within reason. Since I moved to Wisconsin in 2007 I registered my M37 at the DMV with no problem. Then when I went to register the '43 Willy's...red flags at the DMV.. the lady said "you know you can't drive these on the roads here..." I was about to flip out on her since technically this is my sons Jeep, and we were getting ready for the Evansville MVPA show and it was his turn to show it, then the lady said she'd register it, we got the collector plates in the mail a few days later in the mail, and the registration read SUV.

Now I have both vehicles registered under the new law, except for my M101, The law states I can Register it as an historic MV, but..as I understand the law, I cant use it for basically anything, so I am keeping it unregistered for now. All the cops around me now know of my trucks, and I was asked by a local cop what the new plate was...he didn't know, and WI has alot of plates...way too many.

I just waiting for the weather to turn a bit warmer, so I can take her out on roads for my permanent "test drive"
Carl Reinemann

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1953 M101 Trailer
1961 M416
Too many military collectibles to mention

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