M37 Brakes

N1VSM · Post by **N1VSM** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:27 am

If you are replacing the M/C, you might want to consider switching to a dual-chamber M/C. There was a good article on this mod. in MVM many moons ago. You can also search this forum for more info, or just ask.

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:09 am

cuz wrote:Your $75 is one HUVA deal since I found all other listings asking $95 to $200 for the F544, But I only found a couple that actually said made by Wagner! The suggested retail was over $300.

Wagner F544 Brake Master Cylinder
Model: F544
Manufacturer: Wagner
Price: Retail Price: $303.99
Our Price: $199.99
http://www.autoplusparts.com/index.php? ... gp0dv6rom5

MASTER CYLINDER, DODGE M37 F544, 1269447
Item# F544
$95.00
Product Description
Master cylinder for M37 3/4 ton trucks.
http://store.midwestjeepwillys.com/1269447.html
The photo of this one looks like a repop.

Since we are not really a parts vendor, we don't mark up our prices like most military vendors do. We stock stuff for our own use on our rebuilds and service work. Our customers buy at the same prices I offer on here just to give anyone a break that wants to take advantage of it. Another well kept secret is this, most military parts and components come from the same wholesaler, some of these guys make a nice chunk of change on items don't they?

Bushi · Post by **Bushi** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:34 pm

N1VSM wrote:If you are replacing the M/C, you might want to consider switching to a dual-chamber M/C. There was a good article on this mod. in MVM many moons ago. You can also search this forum for more info, or just ask.

You may be thinking of Ugly Trucking's write up.

http://www.uglytruckling.com/M37%20Truc ... manual.htm

MSeriesRebuild · Post by **MSeriesRebuild** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:54 pm

Bushi wrote:
N1VSM wrote:If you are replacing the M/C, you might want to consider switching to a dual-chamber M/C. There was a good article on this mod. in MVM many moons ago. You can also search this forum for more info, or just ask.

You may be thinking of Ugly Trucking's write up.

http://www.uglytruckling.com/M37%20Truc ... manual.htm

This is a good system, but don't go by ugly trucklings instructions to install it. If you do, your holes through the frame rail for line passage will be at the wrong place.

slk · Post by **slk** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:59 pm

Ok thanks to mseriesrebuild I have been working on adjusting my brakes the right way which I was not doing. I was doing the Minor way and not giving consideration to the lower adjustments as described in the Major way. I have the front 2 wheels done and will do the rears tomorrow and report what progress I have.

This is not an easy thing to do. It is not complicated, but very time consuming going back and forth from top to bottom, and front to back. I am thinking this would not be a bad job if it were all new. With wear on the shoes you just have to adjust them as close as you can watching through the inspection hole.

Steve

Bushi · Post by **Bushi** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:11 pm

MSeriesRebuild wrote:
Bushi wrote:
N1VSM wrote:If you are replacing the M/C, you might want to consider switching to a dual-chamber M/C. There was a good article on this mod. in MVM many moons ago. You can also search this forum for more info, or just ask.

You may be thinking of Ugly Trucking's write up.

http://www.uglytruckling.com/M37%20Truc ... manual.htm
This is a good system, but don't go by ugly trucklings instructions to install it. If you do, your holes through the frame rail for line passage will be at the wrong place.

Where would be the right place? I'm going to upgrade mine soon and would like to do it right.

cuz · Post by **cuz** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:45 pm

Since we are not really a parts vendor, we don't mark up our prices like most military vendors do. We stock stuff for our own use on our rebuilds and service work. Our customers buy at the same prices I offer on here just to give anyone a break that wants to take advantage of it. Another well kept secret is this, most military parts and components come from the same wholesaler, some of these guys make a nice chunk of change on items don't they?

Then your cylinders are the same "made in USA by Wagner-Lockheed" cylinders as the suggested $303.99 List Wagners?

vtdeucedriver · Post by **vtdeucedriver** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:57 pm

cuz wrote:
Since we are not really a parts vendor, we don't mark up our prices like most military vendors do. We stock stuff for our own use on our rebuilds and service work. Our customers buy at the same prices I offer on here just to give anyone a break that wants to take advantage of it. Another well kept secret is this, most military parts and components come from the same wholesaler, some of these guys make a nice chunk of change on items don't they?
Then your cylinders are the same "made in USA by Wagner-Lockheed" cylinders as the suggested $303.99 List Wagners?

Who still sells wagners????? I am still sitting on some NOS ones and plenty that can be rebuilt! I will not put that offshore stuff on it. I put one on my M151 and its given me problems ever since!!!

cuz · Post by **cuz** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:06 pm

The link I posted above sells Wagners for $199.00.

Wagner F544 Brake Master Cylinder
Model: F544
Manufacturer: Wagner
Price: Retail Price: $303.99
Our Price: $199.99
http://www.autoplusparts.com/index.php? ... gp0dv6rom5

N1VSM · Post by **N1VSM** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:43 am

Bushi wrote:Where would be the right place? I'm going to upgrade mine soon and would like to do it right.

I think Charles means that the hole spacing is off. Use your new M/C to determine where the holes should go. Ask questions as you go - there are many of us who have made this mod.

JGPierce · Post by **JGPierce** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:38 am

The MVM article about the dual MC upgrade was by Michael Sullivan in the April 2006 issue.
A Bendix #1584 dual MC from a 1980 Chevy C30 one-ton truck was used. This is the same as NAPA #39017 or CarQuest #20-1584.
Put putty on the frame to mark the locations of the brake lines.

Are people still using this model of a dual MC? Any issues?

HTH.

John

Sal · Post by **Sal** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:19 am

Has anyone had any problems with New Star Master cylinders or wheel cylinders ?

Are they any good?

cuz · Post by **cuz** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:35 pm

I emailed New Star and their cylinders are from Taiwan.

Sal · Post by **Sal** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:40 pm

OK Wes. But have you heard anything about them being good or bad ?

Tanner · Post by **Tanner** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:21 pm

Country of manufacture has zip to do with the QUALITY of what they manufacture...

I sell wire & cable for electrical & signal use to military/telecom/industrial drive & automation/gaming/etc., industries... and it's all produced from raw copper & very high-quality shielding/jacketing at our manufacturing facilities in India, China & Hong Kong. Quality comes from the manufacturing processes/testing/quality control that the manufacturer puts into place. We have all the required UL/CE/EU/TUV/ISO/etc., standards & produce wire & cable on higher quality / newer equipment than many of the 'few remaining' US manufacturers that still mfg in the States or in Mexico...

'T'

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