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Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:05 pm
by Rack Grade
Novice question here.
Just bought '54 M37 which had frame-off restoration ten years ago, a lot of engine work, is spotless under the hood with tons of new looking parts and new looking wiring harness, etc etc.
She was delivered here last week. Trucker delivering her started her up and parked it in my driveway. I put some new gas in and drove it around for a few miles and parked it.
Yesterday: a few very short sputters when starting, then nothing but cranking. Left it for a day
Today: one short sputter then nothing. Left it for a few hours. Next attempt, nothing. Not a spark.
Tinkered with the power on/off switch, didn't help. In-line filter is full of clean gas - looks like flowing fine. But its like no electric is getting to the plugs at all.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Looking high and low for my spark plug wrench. Gotten' into the hobby.
OK so what are the top things I should be looking for?
- Sleepless in NJ
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:20 pm
by Rack Grade
Plugs cleaned. A bit sooty but cleaned up ok.
Still no spark.
I have done something wrong.
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:34 pm
by carolinamv
New coil?
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:14 pm
by Rack Grade
In Line Spark Test:
In-line spark tester - $14 bucks at Auto Zone - yeah! Lights up when I crank it. OK, so there's current flow.
Guess no fuel is being pulled into the carb?
Starter Fluid:
Sprayed it for three seconds in air intake. Cranked. No spark.
Took out a plug. Sprayed a few seconds worth in direct into one hole. Cranked. No spark.
Seems there is just no fuel in there? So fuel supply problem? I see fuel in the in-line fuel filter just a few inches away from the carb. But I cannot tell if it is actually flowing.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Gonna try that again a few times
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:41 am
by kelley
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:02 am
by Rack Grade
YOU GUYS ARE TOTALLY RIGHT
Tested the pump and the lines and its all fine. Fuel flowing.
The in-line spark tester lights up, which made me thing electrical was ok, BUT a neighbor looking at it said it looks weak. And you guys pointed out probably coil issue.
SO.......... I just looked at the coil (now that I have learned what a coil is), and it has some black gooey stuff on it between the "cap" and the "can" That just doesn't look right.
OK so will replace that PRONTO!
Thanks for the excellent suggestions - learning, learning, learning............
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:05 am
by carolinamv
Sounds like the coil went out , you can buy a NOS USGI one for a lot of money or buy a chrome Taiwan knock off for a lot less. I chose to get a NOS one from the 60's. Clean that distributer out very well also
Learned a Lesson
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:31 am
by Rack Grade
I learned a lesson today: properly diagnose a problem. Don't just replace parts until it works.
OK, so coil replaced and still no start up at all.
- gas is freely flowing / pump works
- spark tester tells me power to the plugs
OK so that leaves me with I think two possibilities:
- water in the gas (I just bought this truck and it was on super-empty, may have picked up water)
- float for some reason stuck in up position
So..... I'll try some starter fluid again and see if it sparks. If sparks, then seems I need to drain the carb, the lines, the tank, and put in fresh gas.
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:45 am
by 52PLOWERWAGON
id just dump some heet fuel stabilizer in the tank and get fresh fuel up to the carb
or seafoam is supposed to work good also
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:55 am
by Rack Grade
Bad gas. I took a quart out. Harmless watery fluid. I could swim in it.
Emptied the whole tank and pulled through some hi test and dumped in some Heet.
Cranked it for awhile and she fired up (finally).
Purrs like a kitten now.
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:21 pm
by carolinamv
That's great to hear, I had to drain my tank not long ago.
Try and run premium non ethanol gas in your truck if you can.
Re: Cranky-Cranky, No-Sparky, No Starty
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:37 pm
by NAM VET
glad you got your truck running. I am pretty unfamiliar with fuel issues, but if your tank had water in it, it might be rusty, and perhaps replacing and watching your fuel filters for awhile may be a good idea.