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wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 12:37 pm
by billy
I have read on antique motorcycle forums that they use oil of wintergreen and alcohol to restore old rubber items.
The alcohol opens up the rubber so that the oil can get in.
Apparently they use it on impossible to replace spark plug boots and stuff like that.
I have a really cool military gas can spout that has a expandable rubber plug.
But it is hard as a rock.
That oil is also used as a horse liniment for sore muscles.
I am going to get some and try it out.
I will keep you posted as to it's efficacy.

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:17 pm
by CSCameron
I have heard similar, but have never tried it. I'm very interested to hear your results, be sure to report back. Pics would be nice too!

Clark

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:04 am
by Drew M.
NAPA sells a rubber preserver in a gallon. It was under $30. It does not contain alcohol, which damages rubber.

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 6:40 pm
by w30bob
Hi Guys,

I found this subject a bit fascinating..........so I dug around a bit on the web. Seems the wintergreen oil does work, which surprises me. I wonder if it works on old hard tires? I'm actually thinking about soaking one of my NOS wiring harnesses before I install it to help it live longer. Very interesting topic. Will be trying some test cases as soon as the weather breaks. Thanks for posting this stuff.

regards
bob

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:42 pm
by billy
Drew M. wrote:NAPA sells a rubber preserver in a gallon. It was under $30. It does not contain alcohol, which damages rubber.
wintergreen oil doesnt preserve it.
it restores elasticity

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:37 pm
by ZGjethro
w30bob wrote:Hi Guys,

I found this subject a bit fascinating..........so I dug around a bit on the web. Seems the wintergreen oil does work, which surprises me. I wonder if it works on old hard tires? I'm actually thinking about soaking one of my NOS wiring harnesses before I install it to help it live longer. Very interesting topic. Will be trying some test cases as soon as the weather breaks. Thanks for posting this stuff.

regards
bob
Oil and tires seems like a bad mix. Reminds me of a guy I know. His brother-in-law detailed his sport bike and armour-alled the tires. He went to make a turn at a stoplight and laid the bike down right in the middle of the intersection, with four lanes of traffic laughing at him. He was fine, but embarrassed.

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:09 am
by Elwood
ZGjethro wrote:
w30bob wrote:Hi Guys,

I found this subject a bit fascinating..........so I dug around a bit on the web. Seems the wintergreen oil does work, which surprises me. I wonder if it works on old hard tires? I'm actually thinking about soaking one of my NOS wiring harnesses before I install it to help it live longer. Very interesting topic. Will be trying some test cases as soon as the weather breaks. Thanks for posting this stuff.

regards
bob
Oil and tires seems like a bad mix. Reminds me of a guy I know. His brother-in-law detailed his sport bike and armour-alled the tires. He went to make a turn at a stoplight and laid the bike down right in the middle of the intersection, with four lanes of traffic laughing at him. He was fine, but embarrassed.
Oil or Armor All or tire dressing on the tread surface of any tire is a bad idea, but motorcycle tires are unique in that they're designed to lean over when cornering (it's how a motorcycle turns). So what looks like the sidewall of a motorcycle tire to many people, is actually part of the tread.

We used to have problems with customers applying Armor All to the vinyl seat of their motorcycle. :shock:

Tires on any vehicle are not worth messing with. Once the rubber is dried out and cracked, it's time to replace them, regardless of how much tread depth is left. Traction with NDT pattern tires on hard surfaces is not the best to begin with, degrades quickly when wet, and is made even worse when the tread can't flex because it's old and hard.

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:38 am
by billy
I put armor all on a steering wheel.
ONCE
jeeze,what was i thinking?

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:45 am
by w30bob
I was a teenager when Armor All came out and was all the rage. We put it on EVERYTHING. It looked like some people dunked their cars in the stuff. Putting it on steering wheels and motorcycle seats are memorable experiences for sure.

What ZG says is true.......but in this case the wintergreen is actually replacing the oil that was originally in the rubber, not putting a silicone coating over the top of the it. Now once rubber is cracked it's not going to repair itself if you replenish the oil it lost......but if it's just stiff it will get softer again. I'm not recommending anyone soak their NDTs in a vat of wintergreen oil, just saying it's not the same as applying a topical like Armor All. Common sense, as always, should prevail. I've yet to actually try the wintergreen rejuvenation on some old rubber parts, but I did buy a big bottle of it (I forget the chemical name now), but will try it once the weather breaks.

regards,
bob

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:18 am
by just me
Remember slot cars? We used oil of wintergreen as a traction aid on the tires. Hurst makes a Super Rubber Rejuvinater that does wonders to old stuff. If you can find a can, tape machine pinch roller cleaner is the best. Hazardous as can be and obsolete. Whenever I find it, I buy it. (For my reel to reel tape machines.)

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:26 pm
by Elwood
w30bob wrote:...but I did buy a big bottle of it (I forget the chemical name now)...
Methyl Salicylate

Bob, do you recall where you found it and how much it cost?

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:06 pm
by just me

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:32 pm
by Elwood
Thanks! That's the best price I've seen.

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:24 pm
by w30bob
Yup.............I bought the same thing. I got mine on Amazon back in July for $26.

Just...........what brand of pinch roller cleaner do you use? Most of the ones I've used are simply alcohol and tend to dry the roller out, not rejuvenate it. So what's the name of your secret sauce?

regards,
bob

Re: wintergreen oil restores rubber

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:04 pm
by just me
Tascam rubber cleaner RC-2 is the most common one I find. Also, on occasion, I find Otari branded cleaner/ conditioner.