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Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:23 pm
by m-37Bruce
Have you checked for head, knee & steering wheel clearance yet?
BTW, Looking great!

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:58 pm
by retiredguy
Well this is the new floor. I was thinking of putting sound deadener on the floor under the carpet. What do you guys think?

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this is the floor before

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here I built a new rear doghouse support. Note I got rid of that nasty lip the old one had.

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Built a new front support. I made it flat instead.

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so thats that. Next I have to fix the broken cold air scoop. hinges are broken.

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:01 pm
by Master Yota
Looks good!

I'm sorry, but did you say carpet?
In an M37?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

A company called Lizzard skin makes an affordable spray on sound deadener, you may want to investigate that over an insulation type. It seems to get good reviews from the hotrod crowd... They also make a spray on heat shield that is compatible with the sound barrier.

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:03 pm
by retiredguy
just threw the idea out there. I didn't know if there was anything else to quiet things up. The cummins 12 valve is loud. I don't mind hearing the cummins but I don't want to yell to speak over it.

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:48 am
by k8icu
I'm thinking of putting the sound damping on the floor on the underside. Just have to find some stuff that hold up to the elements and then just a rubber mat on the inside. Or maybe the sound damping inside and then a rubber mat much like the CUCV winterization kit.... Just a thought. But hey it's your truck if you want 2 inch shag carpet go for it!... :lol:

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:12 am
by retiredguy
Na, I'm past liking shag, it's a 70's thing. I just didn't know of any other product that did sound deadening. I thought the dynamat stuff was the only thing. What I have read so far on the Lizzard skin sounds promising including the option of paint over top. I would like a rubber floor mat though. I have different patches of steel on the floor that need to be covered up. If one could get a rubber mat to cover all that would be nice but you would have the seams to cover up. Like I mean I would like to have a seamless mat, but I don't think anyone makes one that is close. The only question I have is, is Lizzardskin durable enough for under the wheel well. Will rocks beat it off? Or should I go with under coating under the wheel wells? Maybe box liner would be the best where rocks can hit. Since my fenders will be black on the outside maybe black box liner will be best under the wells. Also question I had was maybe I should put on Por-15 before the Lizzardskin and the box liner. Sorry guys if it seems that I am rambling. Just have a lot of questions. Any comments?

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:54 pm
by Master Yota
If your fenders are in good shape, follow the directions for the box liner and install that way. Never mind the POR15, as you'd just have to sand and scuff most of it off for the box liner anyway. I would use the lizzard skin on both sides of the fire wall and floor, then use the same box liner material on the inside of the floor as well, then cover with a rubber mat. Some padding on the fire wall (inside) would help with sound as well. I belive that the dodge trucks also use a sound mat on the outside of the firewall too. I just wouldn't put anything that can absorb water in the foot wells. Stick to the rubber mat there. A closed cell foam rubber mat (like an anti-fatigue floor mat for standing on) might also work double duty as a sound deadener and floor mat...

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:49 pm
by cuz
If you use a 1/2" to 3/4" rubber mat cut separately for each floor section and glued to the floor with a thorough coating of a quality rubber to steel adhesive like 3M's you'll have sound and heat insulation that will not trap water under it. The foil faced reinforced firewall sound deadener and insulating sheets work very well on the vertical surfaces and can be found at auto racing and aircraft vendors web sites.

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:57 pm
by Master Yota
If I wanted it really quiet, I'd consider doing the underside of the cowl as well as inside each door. The doors don't require the full surface to be covered, but at least a large portion in the center of the panel will do a good job. If you've got the hard top, then insulate it too, as well as the back panel of the cab...

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:00 pm
by windage
Holy Smokes! That is an awesome project! The best of both worlds..now if only Dodge would take the hint (like they are doing with the new muscle car look).

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:03 am
by HingsingM37
Wow, I have not been to this thread for a while. Great progress & workmanship, looking good :)

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:51 pm
by retiredguy
So I have been banging out dents, replacing rust pitted metal, fixing the hinge plates that fell down when I pulled the door off, moved the axle forward 3.5 inches and instaalled the shifter for the transmission. here are the shifter pics.

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Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:16 pm
by m-37Bruce
Now that is a little different? Couldn't you find the "Push-Button Drive"? :P

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:27 am
by Lifer
Dodge used that dash-mounted shifter on a lot of vehicles...especially the A-series pickups/vans and on all Dodge-powered motorhomes. It takes a little getting used to, but it's really quite convenient once you adapt yourself to it. I have to admit that it looks a little strange on an M37 dash, though. (I wouldn't want one of the push-button selectors, myself. Too many problems with sticking, kinked, or frayed cables.)

Re: Building a retro M37

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:06 am
by SOTVEN
HMMM... INTERESTING APPROACH ON THAT SHIFTER. LEFT SIDE OF THE STEERING WHEEL. BUT AS LONG AS IT WORKS, I AM WITH YOU ON THIS ONE :D . AS FOR THE SOUND INSULATION, I THINK IT WILL BE NECESSARY. THE 5.9 CUMMINS IS KINDA LOUD IN MY EXPERIENCE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MY FRIEND :D